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不三不四

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1. Basic Information

  • Pinyin: bù sān bù sì
  • English Translation: Neither fish nor fowl (shady or dubious)
  • Idiom Composition: 「不」(Not (negation))+「三」(Three (representing a standard or stable position in this context))+「不」(Not (negation))+「四」(Four (representing a standard or stable position in this context))
  • Meaning: Describes someone or something that is improper, shady, or of dubious character. It is a derogatory term used to criticize people with bad reputations or things that are odd and unclassifiable.

2. Detailed Meaning and Nuances

「不三不四」 contains the following nuances:

  • Improper conduct (applied to people): This is the most common usage, referring to people who are untrustworthy, have bad reputations, or are morally questionable, such as thugs or delinquents.
  • Dubious nature (applied to objects or styles): Refers to clothing or styles that are bizarre, do not fit into established categories, and appear unpleasant or ridiculous to others.

3. Usage

「不三不四」 is mainly used in the following contexts:

  • Warning about social circles: Often used to advise children or friends against associating with people of poor character.
    • Example:「父母总是担心孩子在外面结交那些不三不四的朋友。」
      (Parents are always worried about their children making shady friends while they are out.)
  • Criticizing improper relationships: Used to condemn extramarital affairs or relationships that are considered morally unacceptable.
    • Example:「他背着妻子在外面搞不三不四的关系,最终导致了离婚。」
      (He had an improper relationship behind his wife's back, which eventually led to a divorce.)
  • Criticizing strange appearance: Used when someone's clothing or design is too eccentric, lacking class, or simply nonsensical.
    • Example:「这种不三不四的打扮,去参加正式面试肯定不合适。」
      (This indecent outfit is definitely not suitable for a formal interview.)

Additional Examples:

  1. 别把那些不三不四的东西带回家。
    (Don't bring those shady things home.)
  2. 那个街区治安不好,经常有一些不三不四的人在游荡。
    (The security in that neighborhood is poor, and there are often shady characters loitering around.)
  3. 他整天不务正业,跟一群不三不四的人混在一起。
    (He neglects his duties all day and hangs out with a group of good-for-nothings.)
  4. 这文章写得不三不四,逻辑完全不通。
    (This article is written in a messy and improper way; the logic doesn't make sense at all.)

4. Cultural Background and Notes

  • There are several theories regarding the origin of the numbers 'three' and 'four.' One theory suggests that in the I Ching (易经), the third and fourth lines of a hexagram are in unstable positions away from the center, leading to the meaning of 'half-baked' or 'not on the right path.'
  • Another explanation is that it simply means 'neither three nor four,' implying something that doesn't fit any standard category or is 'neither fish nor fowl.'
  • The term is highly colloquial and carries a strong derogatory nuance. It is not used in formal settings or when speaking to superiors, but is common in parental scolding or gossip.

5. Similar and Opposite Idioms

6. Summary

不三不四 (bù sān bù sì) is a colloquial expression used to criticize people or things that are suspicious, improper, or lack integrity. It is most commonly used to describe "shady characters," "improper relationships," or "indecent behavior." While frequent in daily conversation, it carries a strong negative tone and should be used with caution.

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Idiom Essay

bù sān bù sì
不三不四
Neither Fish Nor Fowl
shù zì数字tōng cháng通常shì是hěn很jīng què精确de的。

Numbers are usually very precise.

dàn但zài在zhōng wén中文lǐ里,yǒu有liǎng gè两个shù zì数字lián连zài在yì qǐ一起shí时,què却biàn chéng变成le了yī zhǒng一种hěn很mó hú模糊、shèn zhì甚至dài带diǎn点qíng xù情绪de的pī píng批评。

But in Chinese, when two numbers are put together, they can become a vague or even emotional criticism.

zhè ge这个chéng yǔ成语jiù shì就是——“bù sān bù sì不三不四”。

This idiom is 不三不四.

zì miàn字面shàng上kàn看,tā它shuō说yí gè一个rén人“bú shì不是sān三,yě也bú shì不是sì四”。

Literally, it says a person is neither three nor four.

zhè这tīng qǐ lái听起来yǒu diǎn有点qí guài奇怪,dào dǐ到底yīng gāi应该shì是jǐ几ne呢?

This sounds a bit strange; what number should it be then?

qí shí其实,zhè lǐ这里de的shù zì数字bìng并bù不zhòng yào重要。

Actually, the numbers here are not important.

tā它zhēn zhèng真正xiǎng想biǎo dá表达de的shì是:yí gè一个rén人huò zhě或者yī jiàn一件shì事,shī qù失去le了tā它běn本gāi该yǒu有de的yàng zi样子,biàn dé变得“bù不zhèng jīng正经”huò zhě或者“bù lún bù lèi不伦不类”。

What it really wants to express is that a person or a thing has lost its proper form and become shady or dubious.

wǒ men我们zài在shēng huó生活zhōng中,zuì最cháng常tīng dào听到zhè ge这个cí词de的chǎng jǐng场景,wǎng wǎng往往dài带zhe着yì diǎn一点jǐng gào警告de的yì wèi意味。

In daily life, the scene where we most often hear this word usually carries a hint of warning.

bǐ rú比如,fù mǔ父母kě néng可能huì会yī一liǎn脸yán sù严肃dì地gào sù告诉hái zi孩子:“bú yào不要gēn跟nà xiē那些bù sān bù sì不三不四de的rén人lái wǎng来往。”

For example, parents might tell their children with a serious face: Do not associate with those 不三不四 people.

zhè lǐ这里de的“bù sān bù sì不三不四”,zhǐ指de的wǎng wǎng往往shì是nà xiē那些kàn qǐ lái看起来yóu shǒu hào xián游手好闲、xíng wéi行为yǒu xiē有些cū lǔ粗鲁,huò zhě或者ràng让rén人jué de觉得bù jǐn不仅méi yǒu没有lǐ mào礼貌、shèn zhì甚至yǒu diǎn有点wēi xiǎn危险de的rén人。

The 不三不四 here often refers to those who seem idle, behave rudely, or make people feel they are not only impolite but even a bit dangerous.

tā它bù不xū yào需要jù tǐ具体zhǐ chū指出zhè ge这个rén人zuò做cuò错le了shén me什么,zhǐ yào只要nà zhǒng那种“bù不zhèng pài正派”de的qì zhì气质zài在,rén men人们jiù就huì会yòng用zhè ge这个cí词lái来xíng róng形容。

It doesn't need to point out specifically what the person did wrong; as long as that indecent vibe is there, people will use this term to describe them.

yǒu shí hòu有时候,tā它yě也kě yǐ可以yòng lái用来xíng róng形容dōng xī东西huò zhě或者dǎ bàn打扮。

Sometimes, it can also be used to describe things or outfits.

rú guǒ如果yí gè一个rén人de的chuān zhe穿着fēng gé风格fēi cháng非常guài yì怪异,jì既bù不jiǎng jiū讲究měi gǎn美感,yě也bù不fú hé符合chǎng hé场合,ràng让rén人kàn看le了jué de觉得gān gà尴尬,bié rén别人kě néng可能yě也huì会zhòu皱zhe着méi tóu眉头shuō说:“zěn me怎么chuān穿dé得bù sān bù sì不三不四de的?”

If someone's dressing style is very weird, neither aesthetic nor appropriate for the occasion, making people feel embarrassed, others might frown and say: Why are you dressed so 不三不四?

suǒ yǐ所以,“bù sān bù sì不三不四”zhè ge这个chéng yǔ成语,hé xīn核心zài yú在于“guī jǔ规矩”。

Therefore, the core of the idiom 不三不四 lies in rules.

zài在shuō huà说话de的rén人yǎn lǐ眼里,shì jiè世界yīng gāi应该shì是qīng xī清晰de的、yǒu有tiáo lǐ条理de的。

In the speaker's eyes, the world should be clear and organized.

rú guǒ如果nǐ你dǎ pò打破le了zhè zhǒng这种cháng guī常规,biàn dé变得ràng让rén人kàn bù dǒng看不懂、shèn zhì甚至ràng让rén人jué de觉得bù kě不可xìn rèn信任,nà那jiù shì就是“bù sān bù sì不三不四”。

If you break this routine and become incomprehensible or even untrustworthy, that is 不三不四.

xià cì下次dāng当nǐ你tīng dào听到zhè ge这个cí词shí时,nǐ你kě yǐ可以liú yì留意yī xià一下:shuō huà说话de的rén人,bù jǐn jǐn不仅仅shì是zài在pī píng批评duì fāng对方“huài坏”,gèng shì更是zài在biǎo dá表达yī zhǒng一种qiáng liè强烈de的“kàn bù guàn看不惯”hé和“bù不rèn tóng认同”。

Next time you hear this word, you can notice: the speaker is not just criticizing the other party for being bad, but expressing a strong sense of disapproval and disagreement.

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